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myrmepropagandist @futurebird@sauropods.win · 2 weeks ago

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I love it when fiction authors include:
* maps
* organizational charts
* profiles of characters with little images
* family trees
* timelines
* diagrams of weapons and ships with all the features labeled

I sometimes think there is some notion that such things aren’t “real writing” or even that they are “crutches”

But really it’s just enjoyable and makes the world seem more real.

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Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 @Lazarou@mastodon.social · 2 weeks ago

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@futurebird I just enjoy Worldbuilding for the hell of it, barely has any story come of my Universe but it is a vast and documented place. I know there are others like me.

#Worldbuilding #Astrosynthesis

Astrosynthesis screengrab. A riot of lines and multicoloured spheres denote inhabited stars and the wormholes and proximity routes that connect them
You can make out names such as 'Epsilon Indi', '70 Ophiuchi' and '36 Ophiuchi' in the melee — Astrosynthesis screengrab. A riot of lines and multicoloured spheres denote inhabited stars and the wormholes and proximity routes that connect them You can make out names such as 'Epsilon Indi', '70 Ophiuchi' and '36 Ophiuchi' in the melee

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Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@Lazarou @futurebird

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/empiremap.php#ascubemap

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird Your method of tesselation by rhombic dodecahedra, as detailed here(https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/empiremap.php#avoidvoid ) is perfect for regularly-distributed centers such as “star sectors,” but what about more randomly-distributed centers? Introducing the voronoi tesselation!

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird The handy-dandy Voronoi tesselation lets you slice and dice a universe where the great galactic powers aren’t so evenly spread…

The outer surface of a block of Voronoi tesselation shown as a cobble of tightly interlocking colored “stones.”

A Voronoi tesselation with the centers shown as balls near the center of each cell.

Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@su_liam @Lazarou @futurebird

Sweet! A much closer depiction of reality.

su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird I’m currently trying to expand my skills in Java(and programming in general) enough to add Voronoi cells to ChView2. My brain is balky, so it’s going slowly.

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird One wild thing I am trying to do with this is to use the dual to this, the Delaunay triangulation, to create “warp lines” connecting all the stars reliably into a single network.

A 2-d image of a Voronoi diagram in brown, with the dual Delaunay triangulation shown as black lines connecting the “center” points of each Voronoi cell.

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird This is also an analytical tool. Every point inside a Voronoi cell is closer to its associated “center” point than to any other point in the set of “centers.” Each segment of the Delaunay triangulation is the straight line connecting two points that can reach each other via a route that does not come closer to some other point in that set(the straight line not necessarily being that route).

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird So, for each point in the set, you could look at the length of its Delaunay segments, and take the length of the shortest segment and assign that value to the point. Do this for all points in the set. Then take the maximum value for all those points. If you make a route between every point that is within that distance of another point, you should make a minimally-connected graph that connects all of the points. I think.🤔

su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird I may have hijacked the OP’s point, so I’ll take this elsewhere if there’s any interest. DMs, I guess?🤷‍♂️

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Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@su_liam @Lazarou @futurebird

Yes, that would be ideal for identifying military choke points and likely invasion routes. Also plotting "neutral zones"

60sRefugee @60sRefugee@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @su_liam @Lazarou @futurebird Rather than accepting being englobed by not terribly friendly/ useful/ interesting neighbors, I wonder if polities would negotiate/demand right-of-ways to access the wider galaxy. Like links through barren and mostly worthless systems on the periphery of the controlled volumes.

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su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird Looking at both of these next to each other, the Voronoi network(with the vertices as stars) looks a lot more interesting. Everything isn’t a boring mesh of stars. But I’m not sure if any arbitrary set of vertices CAN be connected to create a Voronoi mesh or how one would go about doing that.

Voronoi network in red with Delaunay triangulation in black.

mmby @mmby@mastodon.social · 2 weeks ago

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@su_liam @nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird the voronoi vertices in the plane also bring some regularity that might become boring:

the voronoi vertices will always have exactly 3 edges connected (except for the boundary and (Correction) if the generating sites of a voronoi vertex's edges lie on a common circle)

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Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@su_liam @Lazarou @futurebird

I keep meaning to read up on Voronoi meshes because they keep turning up in my website searches on when to solve mapping problems.

Right now I am using a rule of thumb empirical algorithm. I draw a link between each system and its two closest neighbors.

su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird To add interest, I’d roll a die(the old stand-by of gamers): 1-connect to its closest neighbor; 2,3,4-connect to its two closest neighbors; 5-6-connect to its three closest neighbors; 6-also roll again, 1,2,3,4-no change, 5-add a connection to the fourth closest neighbor, 6-and on another roll of 6 add a connection to the fifth closest neighbor.

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Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 @Lazarou@mastodon.social · 2 weeks ago

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@su_liam @nyrath @futurebird that's a beautiful thing....

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Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 @Lazarou@mastodon.social · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @futurebird I need to figure out how to get that "coreward", "spinward" thing on my map. Also, I like that font.

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Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@Lazarou @futurebird

I forgot how I did that. I think I made fake stars with big labels. If you go to this link you can download my Astrosynthesis file and see how i did it.

https://www.nbos.com/nox/item/916

I had written a Python script to convert my star data from equatorial to galactic coords, which made it easier to place the core ward and spin ward labels.

su_liam @su_liam@mas.to · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @Lazarou @futurebird Fake stars with labels is how I did the compass rose in chView2. I really should create a routine to add one in. That and a scalebar…

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Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 @Lazarou@mastodon.social · 2 weeks ago

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@nyrath @futurebird *strokes beard thoughtfully

Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 @nyrath@spacey.space · 2 weeks ago

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@Lazarou @futurebird

And of course you like that font. Eurostyle or it's close relative Microgramma have been used in the movies for decades to say You Are In The Future.

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/futurelang.php#cinefont

myrmepropagandist @futurebird@sauropods.win · 2 weeks ago

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… and some stories are confusing and could benefit from some charts and guides!

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