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Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
@tokyo_0@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@gimulnautti That's one part of it. But it's also true that while killing the leader of an opposing "tribe" appears to serve the interests of a group, it may actually not do that if the consequences pose a greater threat to the group than had previously existed. The killing doesn't truly serve the interests of the group, it just looks like it does to someone who doesn't understand it fully.

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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@tokyo_0 @gimulnautti@loops.video Correct. But #rightwing thought doesn’t care about this either, as the next objective of what they want is always justified by slightly different means anyway.
The fundamental difference is in that this ”slippery slope” is not seen as a problem, because words and justifications never were a primary concern.
Furthermore, #neurophysiological research suggests that this difference cannot be ”unlearned” for all, but is a fundamental baseline #reality shift.

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Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
@tokyo_0@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @gimulnautti@loops.video If it doesn't matter whether or not self-interest is actually served by a given action, self-interest can't be the true motivation.

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Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
@tokyo_0@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@gimulnautti@mastodon.green @gimulnautti@loops.video (Or is the defining feature of right-wing thought that logic and congruence don't matter 🤔)

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Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@tokyo_0 @gimulnautti@loops.video That is what I’m saying. Or rather that logic & congruence is not framed from the same principles. The framing begins from the in-group’s benefit, and trickles down from there. The fundamental principles of logic are different.
There’s some fascinating research on the topic, see reference list on my blog post from 2022: https://gimulnaut.wordpress.com/2022/12/09/compassion-for-the-fearful-conservative-and-the-reckless-liberal/

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Compassion for the fearful conservative and the reckless liberal

Scholars at University College of London in brain imaging studies, first found in 2011 that students who identified as conservative tended to have larger amygdala structures in their brains than se…
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